2008-04-21, 08:08
Hi folks!
Haben sicher schon viele die neue SAINT-Gruppe gesehen, hier nun aber unser "offizieller" Thread dazu...
Wurde auf dem diesjährigen Sea Otter Classic präsentiert.
Von der Optik her bißchen an JohnPlayerSpecial angelehnt, finde ich... ;-)
Die wesentlichen Änderungen sind:
Schaltwerk:
Umwerfer:
Scheibenbremse:
Shifter:
Naben:
Kurbeln:
Erhältlich wird das Ganze sein ab August 2008.
Hier nun der offizielle Text von Shimano dazu:
“Find your Flow” with the new Saint
The new Saint keeps its basic characteristics like top-level durability and reliability for extreme mountain biking such as Down Hill, Freeriding and Extreme All Mountain. At the same time, this new group is completely different and promises much more. Further increased rigidity for example and a lightweight design which is in line with the current gravity trend for faster and smoother trails. The appearance is very technical and agressive, in shiny black and subtle gold coloured details.
4-piston disc brakes
The Saint disc brakes have been designed from scratch. The dual-diameter 4-piston calipers provide an incredible 50% more stopping power than the current BR-M800. The calipers have an increased oil flow which makes bleeding a lot easier.
The brake levers feature Servo Wave technology that gives more brake power and offers excellent controllability and extra pad clearance as well. The levers feature a tool-free reach adjust and they have a beefy lever blade for optimal control.
Shimano Shadow
The futuristic Saint Shadow rear derailleur minimizes the chance to damage the derailleur by hitting any object on the trail. Biggest difference with the Deore XT and XTR Shadow derailleurs introduced last year, is the super wide inner link that offers the additional stiffness that is so important in gravity. Shimano managed to combine it’s additional rigidity with a remarkable weight saving of over 100 grams compared to the current version.
The Saint rear derailleur has an increased spring tension compared to the other Shimano Shadow derailleurs. Furthermore, it has a bracket switch to select usage with close or wide ratio cassettes. Close ratio cassettes (23-28T lowest gear) are recommended for Down Hill and wide ratio (32-34T lowest gear) for Freeride and All Mountain usage. The Saint Shadow derailleur is available in a short (SS) and a medium (GS) cage version.
Rapidfire Plus shifters
The gravity oriented Rapidfire Plus shifters have been designed to combine a crisp shift feeling with 1-finger braking. They feature a short release lever stroke and Instant Release technology for a fast and direct response. Of course these shifters also feature 2-Way Release technology that allows the release lever to be operated in two directions. The new Saint shifters have been developed with an adjustable bracket to allow inboard and outboard mounting. Last but not least, they have an excellent mud shedding design.
Cranksets
The Saint cranksets will be much lighter and even more rigid (!!!) than current versions. There will be options for single and double chainrings. Both have been developed with HOLLOWTECH II technology and feature an extreme heavy duty spider arm and spindle. The new crank arm design allows more ankle clearance and the “honeycomb” designed bash guard has a great impact resistance. It has a steel pedal thread insert for extra rigidity. Single chainring options: 34/36/38/40/42T. Double: 36 x 22T compact drive crankset for All Mountain usage offers a wide gear ratio and a narrow Q-factor.
Front derailleur
Saint includes a double specific mountain bike front derailleur, designed to perform with a 36x22T compact drive crankset. It has a very compact size with increased stiffness and improved clearance of the chain, chain stay and rear tire for an optimal compatibility with all kinds of full suspension frames. A wider and lower positioned inner plate reduces the chance of chain drop considerably.
Hub and freehub
The new Saint hub and freehub are around 100 grams lighter than current versions and they feature a standard size center lock mount which saves weight while maintaining strength.
The hub has been provided with fully adjustable and easy serviceable cup and cone bearings. Over Locknut Dimension (OLD) is 110mm and they feature a 20mm through axle for an ultra stiff fork/hub combination.
The bearings of the freehub have been positioned wider apart for increased stiffness. The freehub body has been developed with Shimano’s quick engagement technology that results in increased performance especially in technical terrain. The Saint freehub will be available in two versions. 135mm OLD in combination with a 10mm or 12mm through axle and 150mm OLD with a 12mm through axle. Sealings feature a 400% improved durability.
The new Saint: lighter, stiffer, better. Enjoy the ride and “Find your Flow…”
Take a look at the video at http://www.thecollectivefilm.com/provingground
Availability in the market: August 2008
Haben sicher schon viele die neue SAINT-Gruppe gesehen, hier nun aber unser "offizieller" Thread dazu...
Wurde auf dem diesjährigen Sea Otter Classic präsentiert.
Von der Optik her bißchen an JohnPlayerSpecial angelehnt, finde ich... ;-)
Die wesentlichen Änderungen sind:
Schaltwerk:
- Mit von der XTR und XT bekannter Shadow Technologie, aber breiter abgestützt.
- Keine Befestigung mehr an der Achse.
- Kurzer oder mittlerer Käfig möglich.
- Es lässt sich durch Umhängen auf Kassettengröße anpassen (max. Ritzel 34 oder 28).
Umwerfer:
- Verkürzter Umwerfer für mehr Reifenfreiheit.
- Angepasster Radius für 36er Kettenblatt bei der 2-KB-Kurbelvariante.
Scheibenbremse:
- 4 Bremskolben, die laut Shimano für 50% mehr Bremspower verglichen mit der aktuellen Saint sorgen.
- Zwei unterschiedliche Nehmerzylinderdurchmesser.
- Der Öldurchfluss wurde verbessert, speziell fürs Entlüften.
- Bremshebel in schlankem Design mit gegenüber der XT verbessertem Griffweiten-Rädchen.
- Bremsscheibe mit Alu-Spider.
Shifter:
- 2-Way-Release mit Instant-Release.
- Verschiebbarer Korpus.
Naben:
- Rund 100g leicher als die Vorgänger.
- Normaler CenterLock-Aufnahme.
- vorne: 20mm Steckachse, hinten: 135/10, 135/12 oder 150/12 Steckachse.
Kurbeln:
- Steifer und leichter als die derzeitige SAINT-Kurbel.
- Verfügbar mit einem Kettenblatt (34/36/38/40/42 Zähne) oder 2 Kettenblättern (36 & 22).
- Selbst Re-verformender Bash-Guard mit Wabenstruktur im Inneren.
- Hollowtech II Innenlager auch für 83mm Oversize.
Erhältlich wird das Ganze sein ab August 2008.
Hier nun der offizielle Text von Shimano dazu:
“Find your Flow” with the new Saint
The new Saint keeps its basic characteristics like top-level durability and reliability for extreme mountain biking such as Down Hill, Freeriding and Extreme All Mountain. At the same time, this new group is completely different and promises much more. Further increased rigidity for example and a lightweight design which is in line with the current gravity trend for faster and smoother trails. The appearance is very technical and agressive, in shiny black and subtle gold coloured details.
4-piston disc brakes
The Saint disc brakes have been designed from scratch. The dual-diameter 4-piston calipers provide an incredible 50% more stopping power than the current BR-M800. The calipers have an increased oil flow which makes bleeding a lot easier.
The brake levers feature Servo Wave technology that gives more brake power and offers excellent controllability and extra pad clearance as well. The levers feature a tool-free reach adjust and they have a beefy lever blade for optimal control.
Shimano Shadow
The futuristic Saint Shadow rear derailleur minimizes the chance to damage the derailleur by hitting any object on the trail. Biggest difference with the Deore XT and XTR Shadow derailleurs introduced last year, is the super wide inner link that offers the additional stiffness that is so important in gravity. Shimano managed to combine it’s additional rigidity with a remarkable weight saving of over 100 grams compared to the current version.
The Saint rear derailleur has an increased spring tension compared to the other Shimano Shadow derailleurs. Furthermore, it has a bracket switch to select usage with close or wide ratio cassettes. Close ratio cassettes (23-28T lowest gear) are recommended for Down Hill and wide ratio (32-34T lowest gear) for Freeride and All Mountain usage. The Saint Shadow derailleur is available in a short (SS) and a medium (GS) cage version.
Rapidfire Plus shifters
The gravity oriented Rapidfire Plus shifters have been designed to combine a crisp shift feeling with 1-finger braking. They feature a short release lever stroke and Instant Release technology for a fast and direct response. Of course these shifters also feature 2-Way Release technology that allows the release lever to be operated in two directions. The new Saint shifters have been developed with an adjustable bracket to allow inboard and outboard mounting. Last but not least, they have an excellent mud shedding design.
Cranksets
The Saint cranksets will be much lighter and even more rigid (!!!) than current versions. There will be options for single and double chainrings. Both have been developed with HOLLOWTECH II technology and feature an extreme heavy duty spider arm and spindle. The new crank arm design allows more ankle clearance and the “honeycomb” designed bash guard has a great impact resistance. It has a steel pedal thread insert for extra rigidity. Single chainring options: 34/36/38/40/42T. Double: 36 x 22T compact drive crankset for All Mountain usage offers a wide gear ratio and a narrow Q-factor.
Front derailleur
Saint includes a double specific mountain bike front derailleur, designed to perform with a 36x22T compact drive crankset. It has a very compact size with increased stiffness and improved clearance of the chain, chain stay and rear tire for an optimal compatibility with all kinds of full suspension frames. A wider and lower positioned inner plate reduces the chance of chain drop considerably.
Hub and freehub
The new Saint hub and freehub are around 100 grams lighter than current versions and they feature a standard size center lock mount which saves weight while maintaining strength.
The hub has been provided with fully adjustable and easy serviceable cup and cone bearings. Over Locknut Dimension (OLD) is 110mm and they feature a 20mm through axle for an ultra stiff fork/hub combination.
The bearings of the freehub have been positioned wider apart for increased stiffness. The freehub body has been developed with Shimano’s quick engagement technology that results in increased performance especially in technical terrain. The Saint freehub will be available in two versions. 135mm OLD in combination with a 10mm or 12mm through axle and 150mm OLD with a 12mm through axle. Sealings feature a 400% improved durability.
The new Saint: lighter, stiffer, better. Enjoy the ride and “Find your Flow…”
Take a look at the video at http://www.thecollectivefilm.com/provingground
Availability in the market: August 2008